Millennial Confusion

By | December 22, 2018

Ya know, there is alot of controversy surrounding the millennial doctrines. The Pre-Trib’s arguing with the Posts, the Posts with the Mid’s, and the Am’s with the Pre’s. During the 1970’s and 1980’s there were many a church split over these schools of thought. Why? Was it because people were using their own wisdom to divide the word of God? Not all of them can be right and the Holy Spirit didn’t cause certain people to believe one thing and some another. God is not the author of confusion. Within the Baptist church’s this was an area of great contention. The debate that should be a reasoning session continues to this day.

As a young man, I was brought up in an Am-millennial (no millennial) church where the belief was that the church would be taken out when God destroyed this earth to make a new Heaven and a new earth. I had agonized for years over the order of events that were to take place and after studying the scriptures could come to one conclusion. Christ will not leave his bride in the path of Gods wrath. (destruction) You see,  The Lord told us there will be a great tribulation, (Matthew:24) such as the world has never seen and the question in my mind is would the church be here when this happened?

Lets consider the scriptures and what the Savior has to say on this matter. Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. 17:22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it. 17:23: And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them. 17:24: For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. 17:25: But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation. 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 17:27: They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 17:28: Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

God will not pour his wrath upon his own!

And why would we think that Christ will allow his bride to suffer from His wrath that is to come? Again, look what the Bible says about it: 1 Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

Even though I studied and gave my ear to some very Godly teachers, I wound up so confused that I proclaimed my own doctrine. “PAN millennial” I believed it would all “PAN” out. But God is not the author of confusion and the only one confusing me was myself. I didn’t want to offend or argue with anyone, so I put my head in the sand and said it will all work out.  After I repented to God and started studying through prayer under the leadership of the Holy Spirit I was able to stand on a solid foundation.  God will do what God intends to do for HE IS GOD!!! His word is true and should not be debated!

I’m not saying that “Pan-millennialism” is wrong though, I still believe that all things will be worked out by the Lord, but God does expect us to study under the leadership of the Holy Spirit. We are told plainly in 2nd Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Below is a list of the schools of thought pertaining to the millennial doctrines for your reference. Theses doctrines are, as far as I can tell the only things that are still being reasoned out between the brethren. Keep in mind though, that the most important doctrine is “You must be born again”. Lets not argue over an order of events, but be about the Fathers business by telling others about Jesus and looking for the return of the Savior!!!!!

Please, do not categorize me! The truth is not all these schools of thought can be right! The only thing that should really matter to the redeemed folks is the Jesus is coming soon!!!!!!!!!!!!


Am-millennial Consider the 1000 year reign of the Lord and Savior to be spiritual in nature and not literal and that the Church will be called out in the end of the world. They hold to the scriptures that say there is no accounting of time with God.
Post-millennial This one is a new one on me! A variation of Am-millennial but believe that the literal (One Day) Thousand year reign must take place before the church will be called out.
Post-tribulation The Seven Year Tribulation and then the Calling out of the Church by the Lord Jesus Christ followed by a literal 1000 year reign of Christ on this earth.
Mid-tribulation The Seven Year Tribulation with the Calling out of the Church by the Lord Jesus Christ after the first 3 1/2 years followed by a literal 1000 year reign of Christ on this earth.
Pre-millennial or Pre-tribulational The Calling out of the Church by the Lord Jesus Christ, and then a Seven Year Tribulational Period, followed by a literal 1000 year reign of Christ on this earth.
Non-millennial Believe that there will be no reign at all except in the hearts of those who are born-again. That whatever tribulations are stated will be in the Church age.
Pan-millennial or It will all “Pan” out Have faith in the Lord that He will work His will no matter what we think or do. If everything were plain and clear to us then there wouldn’t be anything to argue about! 1st Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

What the above mentioned brethren, I hope would have in common is that “you must be born again”  & “believing in the sacrifice that Jesus made on our behalf will get you born again” & “making Him your Lord and Savior makes you a member of the body of Christ, the Bride, the true Church”! That’s common enough ground to start reasoning out our differences isn’t it? Isiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

2 thoughts on “Millennial Confusion

  1. Ditto

    This is, once again, a hot issue!
    For one thing, I’ve noticed that, when I was living, with one foot in heaven
    and one foot in the world, I was anxious to see a pre-milenial rapture. I
    mean, anyone, who isn’t 100%, gungho, for Jesus, isn’t going to be able to
    withstand any type tribulational problems.

    All right…Having said that, allow me, if you will, to explain something I’ve
    been studying: The EndTime ministry: This is a course, offered by a man,
    who lives in the Dallas, TX, area. Not only has Irvin Baxter explained the
    statue in King Nebuchadnazzer’s dream (nary a one of my Bible college
    proffessors could explain what kingdom is the feet (iron, mired with clay)
    represents … A Deaf man, I know, said this shows the statue cannot stand,
    but he missed the point that the statue DOESN’T stand, except toe repre-
    sent kingdoms that ruled the entire world.
    Baxter’s explanation is this: The thighs, which represent the Holy Roman
    empire of Christ’s time, are iron…The feet are iron, mixed with clay and this,
    according to his teaching, shows the Roman empire coming back (in the form
    of the European Union).
    Not only that, Baxter said he began his study, being a believer in a pre-milennial
    rapture and then adding that he’d found the scripture actually teaches that God’s
    people will endure the 7-year tribulation.

    Lastly, allow me, if you will, to explain something else he teaches that blew me
    away: First, we will know, when the final seven years begins. That is, when Israel,
    either willingling or because the sanctions, etc. force them to, signs a peace treaty,
    with Palestine, giving the West Bank to Palestine and causing the Israelites in that
    area, to become sub-culture.
    This is also when the antichirst will emerge (Baxter expectss this man to be Roman
    Catholic) and the False Prophet will become the leader of the “new” one-world church.

    This part is something I don’t, fully, understand: Baxter teaches that the antichihrst will
    not have dominion over Israel or Jordan. He also thinks the U.S. and Australia will not be
    dominated by the antichrist.

    Also: In the vision, given Daniel, of the beast emerging from the sea, you see animals and Baxter explains that these are countries, present at the end time. The Lion is England (he shows pictures of Trafalgar Square, where they have statutes of their state animal (the lion), all over the place.
    In the prophecy, the lion has eagles wings that come out of the lion. Anybody knows the eagle is America’s state bird and that America came out of England. The beast has the feet of a bear … Russia’s animal is the bear … and he said he struggled to learn what eh leopard is.
    Once, when he was in Houston for a conference, the Lord told him to purchase a newspaper and he said he balked because he had no need for a Houstonian newspaper.
    The Holy Spirit persisted so he decided to buy one, when he went for breakfast. He was amazed that the headline, on the front page, showed a Leopard tank, being developed in Germany.
    This makes a load of sense, to me, because I worked at Grumman Aerospace Corporation, where I had to paint the parts of the F15 Eagle, which is one of the U.S. Air Force’s fighter jets.

    Lastly: I have a friend, who is an Assembly of God evangelist, living in Sulfur, OK. This man’s name is Rev. Tim Moore and, in 2001, he published a book, in which he explained how the idea of a 7-year Great Tribulation is not factual, as far as scripture is concerned.
    You see, the entire Tribulation WILL be seven years. However, the Great Tribulation will begin with the Antichrist cuts off all animal sacrifice (Baxter teaches that this will be restored, at the beginning of the Tribulation and that, 3 1/2 years will pass, when it will be cut ended).
    You see the “system” will demand that the Antichrist will stand in the door of the newly rebuilt Temple and demand that he, alone is God and the he, alone, will be worshipped.

    This is also going to cause the Jews, who elected to stay in the Palestinean state to flee and this is when the GREAT TRIBULATION will begin.

    In the fourteenth chapter of Revelation, John writes about the beast he sees emerging from the sea. In John’s vision, the eagle is missing. John DOES, however, see an eagle, when he writes about the mother (Mary) and her child (Christ) being under attack by the devil and protected by the wings of an eagle.

    Lastly, I wish I’d known this, when Obama took office. It would have saved me a load of worry. You see, God promised Abraham that His blessings would be upon those, who blessed Israel and HIs curses would visit those, who cursed Israel.
    However, it appears that America’s renewed allegiance with the State of Israel has brought His blessing BACK to America.

  2. David Beverley Sr.

    The tribulation is NOT God’s wrath – it is satan’s – that God is allowing to be used as a “purification process” —
    “Woe to the inhabitants of the earth – for SATAN has come down with great wrath, knowing that he has but a short time…”
    The end-times destruction/upheaval/spading over (as it were) will be at THE LAST TRUMP – when Jesus appears with the armies of heaven (heavenly hosts) in great power — THAT is when we are taken out of harm’s way and God’s wrath is poured out. BUT – WE WILL BE HERE FOR THE GREAT TRIBULATION. period.
    It has probably already begun —
    Daniel writes — “some will be robbed, some will be jailed and some will be killed — by this they will be purified…”
    (I am paraphrasing – but what I write here is pretty accurate) — God’s ways – His thoughts – are higher than ours.
    For us to think that “God will never let us go through any pain…” – is akin to what Peter said to Jesus in response to Jesus being crucified — “Never Lord” said Peter — what did Jesus say in response?

    GET BEHIND ME SATAN — you are thinking like the world thinks —


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